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=== Madeleine and Gilbert's experience of Janadesh ===
 
=== Madeleine and Gilbert's experience of Janadesh ===
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Madeleine presented the issues of the common daily life in India. It shows the leak of perspectives, alcohol difficulties, mutation of the work and the social environnement of paysans.
  
 
=== The agrarian situation in India ===
 
=== The agrarian situation in India ===
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Nathalie and Gauthier presented the agrarian situation in India. They show parallels between the land access in India and in Brazil, France, Japan, China... Their goal was to give a guide for a good agrarian reform in India. They worked with Ekta Parishad on this project.
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In India, agriculture has 2 speeds :
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* big industrial agricultural exploitations
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* an agriculture of subsistence, with lots of landless people
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They showed us the global warming issue : initially there were 2 crops by year... and now, because of dryness of lands, it's reduced to 1 crop only.
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The results of their investigation were :
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* inequalities
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* governance issues
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* land issues
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They thank about a collective property, the right to "use" the land, and about the social utility of land.
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Conclusion :
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* regroup the agencies in charge of land management
 +
* challenge the private property
 +
* organize a legislative management of irrigation
  
 
=== The Manu and Brenda's journey around India, Middle-East and Europe ===
 
=== The Manu and Brenda's journey around India, Middle-East and Europe ===
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Manu and Brenda started their journey in India and came back in France mainly by the way of land, in the goal of meeting famers from all around their trip. This is the quick resume of their experience :
 +
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* Janadesh
 +
** precarious social situation
 +
** big issues about access to the land
 +
** and lots of thing we've already spoke about...
 +
* Pondicheri, they met interesting organizations which help paysans
 +
** listing their needs, educating, micro-credit, monitoring...)
 +
** those local organizations highlighted how countries from the North want to help them, but how they don't listen any feedback from countries from the South.
 +
* Iran: A really impressive hospitality even if their was a big cultural and linguistic divide
 +
* Turkey
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** farmers have no idea of their future and of the global agricultural situation around them
 +
** they've participated to an anti-GMO event with a big link with MST in Brazil
 +
* Romania
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** difficulties between the need of union and the fear of communism
 +
** the public politics about agro-industry push the country to reduce the number of farmers from 4.000.000 people to 300.000 until 2010
 +
* Hungary: they discovered an eco-village of 60 houses and 300Ha for agriculture. This village aims autonomy, not autharcie.
 +
* Poland: programs for social inclusion in organic farms
 +
 +
The common points between all the different farmers met are :
 +
* lost of identity
 +
* the "farmerness" suffers of its image
  
 
=== Second thinking round ===
 
=== Second thinking round ===
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We discussed about the words and the status of (in french, because I'm missing good translations) :
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* paysan
 +
* agriculteur
 +
* exploitant agricole
 +
 +
What should happen in case of a big revision of the european help system for agriculture ? Where is the place for the "non commercial" activities of farmers, in his direct remuneration, in the public helps ?
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 +
== Français ==

Version du 20 mars 2008 à 14:52

English version

Context

Meeting

This meeting happened in Hoek Van Holland, Nederlands, few month after Janadesh, the pacific march for landless people in India, organised by Ekta Parishad. Many present people has just got back from their journey...

Situation in India

Ekta Parishad was born in 1990. It mobilises people locally but evoluate and think nationally. The campaign has three specific demands around land reform. These are:

  • Establishment of a National Land Authority to provide a clear statement of land utilization in India, identify the lands available for redistribution and strengthen pro-poor laws
  • Establishment of fast track courts to settle past and future conflicts related to land
  • Establishment of a single window system so that farmers can resolve easily and freely the land issues, without wasting time, money and energy

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janadesh_2007)

Thank to Janadesh, Ekta Parishad obtained in february 2008 the creation of the national commission for the land.

The future with Ekta Parishad

A new march is planned in 2012 or 2015 of 100.000 walkers, if United Nations doesn't integrate poverty and food access in their program. Ekta Parishad is working daily to maintain pression on governement. Concerned people has nothing to loose, they will not "surrender".

First thinking round

The context helping, violent movements are used (by whom?) to weaken and dissolve this non-violent initiative. Ekta Parishad trains its suppoters to non-violence with three methods :

  • Education
  • Cooptation (some kind of a delegation of trust)
  • Culture (popular, accessible, participative)

We've tried to extend the ideas, the energy, the idian model to Europe...

Sanjay proposed the example of "the theater of the oppressed" and "the legislative theater" (cf. Augusto Boal's book). The limit between actors and spectators is thin and bring to the concept of "spectaCtors". The objective of such an initiative is to make relevant aberrations and injustices in the system, making people react concretely the public, by offering the possibility to come and speak. This is a way to educate people by culture... Some examples come after that point, illustrating things : Between 1993 and 1996, 13 laws have been issued from this citizen constructive approach. In Germany, similar initiatives also exist (supporting by the german green party). To conclude on this orignal approach, the oppressed theater, especially when brought in the street, can make people dreaming, offering them a place of expression and revendication.

For René, there are 2 categories of people in EU :

  • One who knows how to intellectualize sufferings
  • One who lives those sufferings

Then, we noticed that the problem is around the 20% of people who is already involved in social structures like associations, citizen society, politics, culture, ... and who is always the one who do things and participate (the top-middle classes). So the question is : how to involve the people how lives the daily difficulties ? Maybe one way is to get the expression in the streets.

A last reflexion has then come about the global environment and land access issues : The movements have often been launched from an urban context, in a radical opposition with the rural & farmer world. Don't book the debate to the elites.

Madeleine and Gilbert's experience of Janadesh

Madeleine presented the issues of the common daily life in India. It shows the leak of perspectives, alcohol difficulties, mutation of the work and the social environnement of paysans.

The agrarian situation in India

Nathalie and Gauthier presented the agrarian situation in India. They show parallels between the land access in India and in Brazil, France, Japan, China... Their goal was to give a guide for a good agrarian reform in India. They worked with Ekta Parishad on this project.

In India, agriculture has 2 speeds :

  • big industrial agricultural exploitations
  • an agriculture of subsistence, with lots of landless people

They showed us the global warming issue : initially there were 2 crops by year... and now, because of dryness of lands, it's reduced to 1 crop only.

The results of their investigation were :

  • inequalities
  • governance issues
  • land issues

They thank about a collective property, the right to "use" the land, and about the social utility of land.

Conclusion :

  • regroup the agencies in charge of land management
  • challenge the private property
  • organize a legislative management of irrigation

The Manu and Brenda's journey around India, Middle-East and Europe

Manu and Brenda started their journey in India and came back in France mainly by the way of land, in the goal of meeting famers from all around their trip. This is the quick resume of their experience :

  • Janadesh
    • precarious social situation
    • big issues about access to the land
    • and lots of thing we've already spoke about...
  • Pondicheri, they met interesting organizations which help paysans
    • listing their needs, educating, micro-credit, monitoring...)
    • those local organizations highlighted how countries from the North want to help them, but how they don't listen any feedback from countries from the South.
  • Iran: A really impressive hospitality even if their was a big cultural and linguistic divide
  • Turkey
    • farmers have no idea of their future and of the global agricultural situation around them
    • they've participated to an anti-GMO event with a big link with MST in Brazil
  • Romania
    • difficulties between the need of union and the fear of communism
    • the public politics about agro-industry push the country to reduce the number of farmers from 4.000.000 people to 300.000 until 2010
  • Hungary: they discovered an eco-village of 60 houses and 300Ha for agriculture. This village aims autonomy, not autharcie.
  • Poland: programs for social inclusion in organic farms

The common points between all the different farmers met are :

  • lost of identity
  • the "farmerness" suffers of its image

Second thinking round

We discussed about the words and the status of (in french, because I'm missing good translations) :

  • paysan
  • agriculteur
  • exploitant agricole

What should happen in case of a big revision of the european help system for agriculture ? Where is the place for the "non commercial" activities of farmers, in his direct remuneration, in the public helps ?

Français